Detained by the Police (Again)!

The four UK vans and the three French vans are currently detained by the police in Xigaze (between Lhasa and the Nepal border) because our vehicle documents are out of date.

As we have been delayed by the road conditions in Tibet we have known for more than three weeks that our vehicle documents (vehicle registration, road-tax and driving licences) would expire before we were able to leave China. We have drawn this fact to the attention of both China Swan and China Comfort.

During our recent enforced stay in Lhasa this problem was solved by China Swan, or so we thought.

Below are three e-mails recently sent by us to China Swan and China Comfort seeking clarification of the position. No reply has been received to any of them.

E-Mail Sent on the 21st of October 2002.

This e-mail is to put in writing the current position and to ensure that the information provided by China Swan to us via "Gong" and "Simon" has been correctly received.

The current position (18:00 on Sunday the 20th of October 2002) is that all four English vans and all three French vans are in Lhasa and are ready to leave for Nepal.

Charges.

We have been told that we must pay to the local authorities in Lhasa, via Simon:-

  1. 450 Yuan ($56USA) per vehicle for the retrospective permission to use the N317.
    (Please note that we have already paid 50 Yuan ($6USA) per person in Changdu and 200 Yuan ($25USA) per person in Nagqu to the police for "permission" to use this road.)

  2. 590 Yuan ($74USA) per vehicle to extend all our vehicle and driver related documents for 30 days (i.e. vehicle registration, road tax, and drivers licence etc.)

We have been told that we must pay to our guide(s) on exit to Nepal:-

  1. $50USA per guide per day from the 10th of October to the date of exit.

We have been told that we will have to pay direct to the Chinese authorities on the border:-

  1. $100USA per vehicle.

Please can you:-

  1. Confirm that these are all the payments we should need to make before we leave China.

  2. Explain the purpose of the $100USA payment.

Guides.

We understand that Gong is leaving us tomorrow. Because we are now traveling as a single group and because Simon speaks very good English (better than Gong) we do not need a replacement guide for the remainder of our trip.

Route.

Our route shows us going from Lhasa to Gyanze. We are told that this road is no longer in use and that there is a new road from Lhasa to Nyemo and then on to Xigaza. This is the route we intend to take. (The local busses now go to Gyanze via Nyemo and Xigaza).

Simon has told us that we should use the Nyemo route, can you confirm this?

E-Mail Sent on the 22nd of October 2002.

This e-mail is to put in writing the current position and to ensure that the information provided by China Swan to us via "Simon" has been correctly received.

The current position (12:00 on Tuesday the 22th of October 2002) is that all four English vans and all three French vans are still in Lhasa and remain ready to leave for Nepal.

More than three weeks ago on the 29-9-2002 we e-mailed China Swan to say:- "...we would therefore like China Swan to arrange a 30 (thirty) day extension to our visas (for 13 persons) and the relevant vehicle documents (7 vehicles). We appreciate that there will be a charge for this as detailed in the contract."

Nearly two weeks ago Simon and one of the French vans arrived in Lhasa, but nothing was done about extending our vehicle documents.

Nearly a week ago Gong and the remaining 6 vans arrived in Lhasa, but nothing was done about extending our vehicle documents.

Yesterday (Monday the 21-10-2002) Simon informed us that he intended to start the process of extending our vehicle documents and that this could take up to a week of elapsed time and that we must remain in Lhasa until the process is complete!

As you are aware the road from Lhasa to Katmandu is over 5200 meters in elevation and is liable to be closed to our type of vehicle, due to snow, any time now.

Please can you:-

  1. Explain why China Swan waited till yesterday to start the process of extending our vehicle documents when it has been clear for at least three weeks that this would be necessary.

  2. Do anything possible to speed up the process of extending our documents and/or get us permission to set off for the border whilst the documents are processed.

E-Mail Sent on the 24th of October 2002.

This e-mail is to put in writing the current position and to ensure that the information provided by China Swan to us via "Simon" has been correctly received.

The current position (20:45 on Thursday the 24th of October 2002) is that all four English vans and all three French vans are in Xigaze and we are detained by the police.

Last night Simon announced that he had all the required paperwork for us to leave Lhasa and travel to the Nepal border. On this basis we left Lhasa at 07:30 today.

Whilst leaving Xigaze at 17:25 we were stopped, in an apparently routine police check, and our out-of-date driving licences, vehicle registration and road tax documents were collected by the police.

We have been told to remain in town.

Can you confirm that China Swan have already extended these documents and that you will convince the Xigaze police of this as soon as possible.

Stephen Stewart.

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